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# Proposal for Matrix "spaces" (formerly known as "groups as rooms (take 2)")
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This MSC, and related proposals, supercede
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[MSC1215](https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-doc/issues/1215).
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## Background and objectives
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Collecting rooms together into groups is useful for a number of
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purposes. Examples include:
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* Allowing users to discover different rooms related to a particular topic:
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for example "official matrix.org rooms".
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* Allowing administrators to manage permissions across a number of rooms: for
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example "a new employee has joined my company and needs access to all of our
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rooms".
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* Letting users classify their rooms: for example, separating "work" from
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"personal" rooms.
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We refer to such collections of rooms as "spaces".
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Synapse and Element-Web currently implement an unspecced "groups" API (referred
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to as "`/r0/groups`" in this document) which attempts to provide this
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functionality (see
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[MSC971](https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-doc/issues/971)). However,
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this is a complex API which has various problems (see
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[appendix](#appendix-problems-with-the-r0groups-api)).
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This proposal suggests a new approach where spaces are themselves represented
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by rooms, rather than a custom first-class entity. This requires minimal
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server changes.
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The existing `/r0/groups` API would be deprecated in Synapse and remain
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unspecified.
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## Proposal
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Each space is represented by its own room, known as a "space-room". The rooms
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within the space are determined by state events within the space-room.
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Space-rooms are distinguished from regular messaging rooms by the presence of
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a `'type': 'm.space'` property in the content of the `m.room.create` event.
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The value of the `type` property uses the Standardised Identifier Grammar from
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[MSC2758](https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-doc/pull/2758). This allows clients to offer slightly customised user experience
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depending on the purpose of the room. Currently, no server-side behaviour is
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expected to depend on this property. A `type` property on the `m.room.create`
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event is used to ensure that a room cannot change between being a space-room
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and a non-space room. For more information, see the "Rejected Alternatives"
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section below.
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As with regular rooms, public spaces are expected to have an alias, for example
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`#foo:matrix.org`, which can be used to refer to the space.
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Space-rooms may have `m.room.name`, `m.room.avatar` and `m.room.topic` state
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events in the same way as a normal room.
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Normal messages within a space-room are discouraged (but not blocked by the
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server): user interfaces are not expected to have a way to enter or display
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such messages. Space-rooms should be created with a power level for
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`events_default` of 100, to prevent the rooms accidentally/maliciously
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clogging up with messages from random members of the space.
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### Membership of spaces
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Users can be members of spaces (represented by `m.room.member` state events as
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normal). The existing [`m.room.history_visibility`
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mechanism](https://matrix.org/docs/spec/client_server/r0.6.1#room-history-visibility)
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controls whether membership of the space is required to view the room list,
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membership list, etc. "Public" or "community" spaces would be set to
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`world_readable` to allow clients to see the directory of rooms within the
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space by peeking into the space-room (thus avoiding the need to add
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`m.room.member` events to the event graph within the room).
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Join rules, invites and 3PID invites work as for a normal room. In order for
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clients to distinguish space invites from room invites, all invites must now
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include the `m.room.create` event in their `invite_state` and `knock_state`.
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### Relationship between rooms and spaces
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The intention is that rooms and spaces form a hierarchy, which clients can use
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to structure the user's room list into a tree view. The parent/child
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relationship can be expressed in one of two ways:
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1. The admins of a space can advertise rooms and subspaces for their space by
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setting `m.space.child` state events. The `state_key` is the ID of a child
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room or space, and the content must contain a `via` key which gives a list
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of candidate servers that can be used to join the room. Something like:
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```jsonc
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// a child room
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{
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"type": "m.space.child",
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"state_key": "!abcd:example.com",
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"content": {
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"via": ["example.com", "test.org"]
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}
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}
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// a child room with an ordering.
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{
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"type": "m.space.child",
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"state_key": "!efgh:example.com",
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"content": {
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"via": ["example.com"],
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"order": "abcd"
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}
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}
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// no longer a child room
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{
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"type": "m.space.child",
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"state_key": "!jklm:example.com",
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"content": {}
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}
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```
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Children where `via` is not present or invalid (not an array) are ignored.
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The `order` key is a string which is used to provide a default ordering of
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siblings in the room list. (Rooms are sorted based on a lexicographic
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ordering of the Unicode codepoints of the characters in `order` values.
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Rooms with no `order` come last, in ascending numeric order of the
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`origin_server_ts` of their `m.room.create` events, or ascending
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lexicographic order of their `room_id`s in case of equal
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`origin_server_ts`. `order`s which are not strings, or do not consist
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solely of ascii characters in the range `\x20` (space) to `\x7F` (`~`), or
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consist of more than 50 characters, are forbidden and the field should be
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ignored if received.)
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2. Separately, rooms can claim parents via the `m.space.parent` state
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event.
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Similar to `m.space.child`, the `state_key` is the ID of the parent space,
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and the content must contain a `via` key which gives a list of candidate
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servers that can be used to join the parent.
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```jsonc
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{
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"type": "m.space.parent",
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"state_key": "!space:example.com",
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"content": {
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"via": ["example.com"],
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"canonical": true
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}
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}
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```
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Parents where `via` is not present or invalid (not an array) are ignored.
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`canonical` determines whether this is the main parent for the space. When
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a user joins a room with a canonical parent, clients may switch to view the
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room in the context of that space, peeking into it in order to find other
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rooms and group them together. In practice, well behaved rooms should only
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have one `canonical` parent, but given this is not enforced: if multiple
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are present the client should select the one with the lowest room ID, as
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determined via a lexicographic ordering of the Unicode code-points.
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To avoid abuse where a room admin falsely claims that a room is part of a
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space that it should not be, clients could ignore such `m.space.parent`
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events unless either (a) there is a corresponding `m.space.child` event in
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the claimed parent, or (b) the sender of the `m.space.child` event has a
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sufficient power-level to send such an `m.space.child` event in the
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parent. (It is not necessarily required that that user currently be a
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member of the parent room - only the `m.room.power_levels` event is
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inspected.) [Checking the power-level rather than requiring an *actual*
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`m.space.child` event in the parent allows for "secret" rooms (see below).]
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Where the parent space also claims a parent, clients can recursively peek
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into the grandparent space, and so on.
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This structure means that rooms can end up appearing multiple times in the
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room list hierarchy, given they can be children of multiple different spaces
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(or have multiple parents in different spaces).
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In a typical hierarchy, we expect *both* parent->child and child->parent
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relationships to exist, so that the space can be discovered from the room, and
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vice versa. Occasions when the relationship only exists in one direction
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include:
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* User-curated lists of rooms: in this case the space will not be listed as a
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parent of the room.
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* "Secret" rooms: rooms where the admin does not want the room to be
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advertised as part of a given space, but *does* want the room to form part
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of the hierarchy of that space for those in the know.
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Cycles in the parent->child and child->parent relationships are *not*
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permitted, but clients (and servers) should be aware that they may be
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encountered, and MUST spot and break cycles rather than infinitely looping.
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### Suggested children
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Space admins can mark particular children of a space as "suggested". This
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mainly serves as a hint to clients that that they can be displayed differently
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(for example by showing them eagerly in the room list), though future
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server-side interfaces (such as the summary API proposed in
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[MSC2946](https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-doc/pull/2946)) might also
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make use of it.
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A suggested child is identified by a `"suggested": true` property in the
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`m.space.child` event:
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```jsonc
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{
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"type": "m.space.child",
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"state_key": "!abcd:example.com",
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"content": {
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"via": ["example.com", "test.org"],
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"suggested": true
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}
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}
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```
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A child which is missing the `suggested` property is treated identically to a
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child with `"suggested": false`. A suggested child may be a room or a subspace.
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### Extended "room invite state"
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The specification is currently vague about what room state should be available
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to users that have been invited to a room, though the Federation API spec does
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recommend that the `invite_room_state` sent over federation via [PUT
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`/_matrix/federation/v2/invite`](https://matrix.org/docs/spec/server_server/r0.1.4#put-matrix-federation-v2-invite-roomid-eventid)
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should include "the join rules, canonical alias, avatar, and name of the room".
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This MSC proposes adding `m.room.create` to that list, so that the recipient of
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an invite can distinguish invites to spaces from other invites.
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## Future extensions
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The following sections are not blocking parts of this proposal, but are
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included as a useful reference for how we imagine it will be extended in future.
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### Auto-joined children
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We could add an `auto_join` flag to `m.space.child` events to allow a space
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admin to list the sub-spaces and rooms in that space which should be
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automatically joined by members of that space.
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This would be distinct from a force-join: the user could subsequently part any
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auto-joined room if they desire.
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Joining would be performed by the client. This could possibly be sped up by
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using a summary API (such as that proposed in
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[MSC2946](https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-doc/pull/2946)) to get a summary
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of the spacetree to be joined, and then using a batch join API to join
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whichever subset of it makes most sense for the client's UX.
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Obviously auto-joining can be a DoS vector, and we consider it to be antisocial
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for a space to try to autojoin its members to more than 100 children (in total).
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Clients could display the auto-joined children in the room list whenever the
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space appears in the list - thus helping users discover other rooms in a space
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even if they're not joined to that space. For instance, if you join
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`#matrix:matrix.org`, your client could show that room in the context of its
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parent space, with that space's auto-joined children shown alongside it as
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siblings.
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### Restricting access to the spaces membership list
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In the existing `/r0/groups` API, the group server has total control over the
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visibility of group membership, as seen by a given querying user. In other
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words, arbitrary users can see entirely different views of a group at the
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server's discretion.
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Whilst this is very powerful for mapping arbitrary organisational structures
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into Matrix, it may be overengineered. Instead, the common case is (we believe)
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a space where some users are publicly visible as members, and others are not.
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One way of achieving this would be to create a separate space for the
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private members - e.g. have `#foo:matrix.org` and `#foo-private:matrix.org`.
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`#foo-private:matrix.org` is set up with `m.room.history_visibility` to not to
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allow peeking; you have to be joined to see the members.
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It's worth noting that any member of a space can currently see who else is a
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member of that space, which might pose privacy problems for sensitive spaces.
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While the server itself will inevitably track the space membership in state
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events, a future MSC could restrict the membership from being sent to clients.
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This is essentially the same as
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[matrix-doc#1653](https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-doc/issues/1653).
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### Flair
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("Flair" is a term we use to describe a small badge which appears next to a
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user's displayname to advertise their membership of a space.)
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The flair image for a group is given by the room avatar. (In future it might
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preferable to use hand-crafted small resolution images: see
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[matrix-doc#1778](https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-doc/issues/1778).
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One way this might be implemented is:
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* User publishes the spaces they wish to announce on their profile
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([MSC1769](https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-doc/issues/1769)
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as an `m.flair` state event: it lists the spaces which they are advertising.
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* When a client wants to know the current flair for a set of users (i.e.
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those which it is currently displaying in the timeline), it peeks the
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profile rooms of those users. (Ideally there would be an API to support
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peeking multiple rooms at once to facilitate this.)
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* The client must check that the user is *actually* a member of the advertised
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spaces. Nominally it can do this by peeking the membership list of the
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space; however for efficiency we could expose a dedicated Client-Server API
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to do this check (and both servers and clients can cache the results fairly
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aggressively.)
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## Related MSCs
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* [MSC2946](https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-doc/issues/2946): Spaces
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Summary API.
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* [MSC2962](https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-doc/issues/2962): Managing
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power levels via Spaces.
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* [MSC3083](https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-doc/issues/3083): Restricting
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room membership based on space membership.
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* [MSC2753](https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-doc/issues/2753) for
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effective peeking over the C/S API.
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* [MSC2444](https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-doc/issues/2444) (or similar)
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for effective peeking over Federation.
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## Security considerations
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None at present.
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## Potential issues
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* If the membership of a space would be large (for example: an organisation of
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several thousand people), this membership has to be copied entirely into the
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room, rather than querying/searching incrementally.
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* If the membership list is based on an external service such as LDAP, it is
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hard to keep the space membership in sync with the LDAP directory. In
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practice, it might be possible to do so via a nightly "synchronisation" job
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which searches the LDAP directory, or via "AD auditing".
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* No allowance is made for exposing different 'views' of the membership list to
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different querying users. (It may be possible to simulate this behaviour
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using smaller spaces).
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* The requirement that `m.space.parent` links be ignored unless the sender has a
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high PL in the parent room could lead to suprising effects where a parent
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link suddenly ceases to take effect because a user loses their PL in the
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parent room. This is mitigated in the general case by honouring the parent
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link when there is a corresponding `m.space.child` event, however it remains
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a problem for "secret" rooms.
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* The `via` servers listed in the `m.space.child` and `m.space.parent` events
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could get out of date, and will need to be updated from time to time. This
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remains an unsolved problem.
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## Rejected alternatives
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### Use a separate state event for type of room
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[MSC1840](https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-doc/pull/1840) proposes the use
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of a separate `m.room.type` state event to distinguish different room types.
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This implies that rooms can dynamically switch between being a Space, and
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being a regular non-Space room. That is not a usecase we consider useful, and
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allowing it would impose significant complexity on client and server
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implementations. Specifically, client and server implementations who store
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spaces separately from rooms would have to support migrating back and forth
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between them and dealing with the ambiguities of `room_id`s no longer pointing
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to valid spaces, etc.
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### Use a different sigil/twigil for spaces
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Groups used + as a sigil to differentiate them from rooms (e.g. +matrix:matrix.org).
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We considered doing similar for Spaces, e.g. a #+ twigil or reuse the + sigil,
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but concluded that the resulting complexity and exoticism is not worth it.
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This means that clients such as matrix.to have to peek into rooms to find out their
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`type` before being able to display an appropriate UI, and users will not know
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whether #matrix:matrix.org is a room or a space without using a client (e.g. if
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reading an advert). It also means that if the client UI requires a space alias the
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client will need to validate the entered data serverside.
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## Unstable prefix
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The following mapping will be used for identifiers in this MSC during
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development:
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Proposed final identifier | Purpose | Development identifier
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------------------------------- | ------- | ----
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`type` | property in `m.room.create` | `org.matrix.msc1772.type`
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`m.space` | value of `type` in `m.room.create` | `org.matrix.msc1772.space`
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`m.space.child` | event type | `org.matrix.msc1772.space.child`
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`m.space.parent` | event type | `org.matrix.msc1772.space.parent`
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## History
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* This replaces [MSC1215](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZnAuA_zti-K2-RnheXII1F1-oyVziT4tJffdw1-SHrE).
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* Other thoughts that led into this are [documented](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hljmD-ytdCRL37t-D_LvGDA3a0_2MwowSPIiZRxcabs).
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## Appendix: problems with the `/r0/groups` API
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The existing `/r0/groups` API, as proposed in
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[MSC971](https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-doc/issues/971), has various
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problems, including:
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* It is a large API surface to implement, maintain and spec - particularly for
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all the different clients out there.
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* Much of the API overlaps significantly with mechanisms we already have for
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managing rooms:
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* Tracking membership identity
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* Tracking membership hierarchy
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* Inviting/kicking/banning user
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* Tracking key/value metadata
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* There are membership management features which could benefit rooms which
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would also benefit groups and vice versa (e.g. "auditorium mode")
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* The current implementations on Riot Web/iOS/Android all suffer bugs and
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issues which have been solved previously for rooms.
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* no local-echo of invites
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* failures to set group avatars
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* ability to specify multiple admins
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* It doesn't support pushing updates to clients (particularly for flair
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membership): https://github.com/vector-im/riot-web/issues/5235
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* It doesn't support third-party invites.
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* Groups could benefit from other features which already exist today for rooms
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* e.g. Room Directories
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* Groups are centralised, rather than being replicated across all
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participating servers.
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