# MSC3567: Allow requesting events from the start/end of the room history It can be useful to request the latest events in a room directly without calling `/_matrix/client/v3/sync` first to fetch the room state. Some use-cases include: * Requesting events using a different filter after receiving a `/sync` response. * A client which does not need to fully sync an account, but wishes to inspect a specific room's history (perhaps for exporting or auditing). ## Proposal The `from` field on the [`/_matrix/client/v3/rooms/{roomId}/messages`](https://spec.matrix.org/v1.1/client-server-api/#get_matrixclientv3roomsroomidmessages) becomes optional. If it is not provided, the homeserver shall return a list of messages from the first or last (per the value of the `dir` parameter) visible event in the room history for the requesting user. Note that Synapse already implements this, but it is not spec-compliant. It is known to be used by Element Android [^1] and Element Web, and there are other use-cases involving threads [^2], which shows real-world usage that this would be valuable. Ideally this would not be necessary and the `prev_batch` token received from calling `/sync` could be provided as the pagination token to `/messages`, but this will not work if you `/sync` with a filter that excludes a given class of event (such as threaded replies), and all the events taking place in a room are of that class. This will result in your `/sync` not returning an update for that room, which means that your most recent `prev_batch` token precedes all the excluded events. Trying to back-paginate from `prev_batch` using `/messages` will not result in seeing the excluded events. ## Potential issues None. ## Alternatives The alternative is today's status quo: a client must first make a request to `/_matrix/client/v3/sync` and then follow-up that request with queries to `/_matrix/client/v3/rooms/{roomId}/messages`. This is clunky if the client is going to throw away most of the information received from the `/sync` request. The behavior also seems undefined if a different `filter` parameter is provided for the call to `/sync` compared to the one used for `/messages`. ## Security considerations None. ## Unstable prefix Since this is modifying the endpoint to support not including a field, no unstable prefix is necessary. ## Dependencies N/A [^1]: https://github.com/matrix-org/synapse/issues/5538 [^2]: In order to list all threads in a room without pulling the history locally it uses `/messages` to push the filtering onto the homeserver. See https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-js-sdk/pull/2065